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Nano Indentation- Creep Test Set up

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Pooyan Kabir posted on Wed, Feb 12 2014 9:42 PM

Dear All,

I am using the Icon AFM and I wanted to do a creep test(constant force) at a specified place and point. I did a little scripting for this test. The result dose not make that much sense to me. I am uploading the image here to know your discussions and ideas about this.

The second graph shows the height sensor versus time and it shows the penetration depth and it means displacement to me. On the other hand the deflection error versus time in the firs graph is decreasing which shows the force ( to best of my knowledge). I am wondering if there is any file that describes the testing protocol clearly and with discussion. The image first gathered with PFQNM and then I did the indentation test.

I also have another question; Do we have to calibrate the tip for backing out the material properties in this case( I did the deflection sens.) I am wondering if we have to exactly characterize the tip or not. Also the material used in this study is a viscous material ( not elastic).

 

I would really appreciate your inputs and ideas.

Thanks

Pooyan

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Answered (Verified) Luis replied on Sat, Feb 22 2014 9:08 AM
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Hi Pooyan,

I am also interested in Creep Tests, though I am using a D3100 and have not succesfully accomplish them yet. Still, I've read a post that may help:

1) The height sensor is not the penetration depth, it is the position of the piezoelectric. The penetration depth is basically  calculated from the difference between piezo displacement and cantilever deflection. They have explained this in a previous post: http://nanoscaleworld.bruker-axs.com/nanoscaleworld/forums/p/399/648.aspx#648

2) I also understand that the deflection error is proportional to the force

3) They have discussed some protocols for creep tests in the same post cited above. Unfortunately the images can not be seen.

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Luis

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Answered (Verified) Luis replied on Sat, Feb 22 2014 9:08 AM
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Hi Pooyan,

I am also interested in Creep Tests, though I am using a D3100 and have not succesfully accomplish them yet. Still, I've read a post that may help:

1) The height sensor is not the penetration depth, it is the position of the piezoelectric. The penetration depth is basically  calculated from the difference between piezo displacement and cantilever deflection. They have explained this in a previous post: http://nanoscaleworld.bruker-axs.com/nanoscaleworld/forums/p/399/648.aspx#648

2) I also understand that the deflection error is proportional to the force

3) They have discussed some protocols for creep tests in the same post cited above. Unfortunately the images can not be seen.

Regards,

Luis

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Hi Luis,

I started to read more fundamental AFM papers and also looked at the link you provided. It seems that the creep works in our device ( i tried with a soft cantilever) and I am going to run it by a stiffer cantilever and then I will see if it works in the process that I want. I can send images of the experiment that we are doing if it helps you. I have written a protocol for testing but it is not clear and I am working on it so some other folks can work with it. I can send it to you as soon as it gets ready.

Again thanks for your response and considerations.

Regards,

Pooyan

 

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Ang Li replied on Wed, Mar 19 2014 4:31 AM

Hi, to your last question, if you need accurate force during your creep test, you do need to calibrate the cantilever spring constant and deflection sensitivity that will convert the deflection error in your image to the actual force.  

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Dear All, 

I am experiencing a weird behavior while I am trying to run the script for nano indentation test. First let me describe the test and procedure. I am running the surface mechanical investigation by PFQNM and then by having the topography image and adhesion image I pick some points with point and shoot and save their location for future reference . Then without changing the tip I change the mode to Contact mode and start the imaging and start to do the indentation test. The image below shows the force and deflection during the test. It suppose to be 2 seconds of loading and 5 seconds of unloading and then unloading phase.

The were a calibration going on our device last week and I am not sure the problem is related to calibration or something different.

I had done the test last month and it was working fine.

I did the force calibration (deflection sensitivity and spring constant). I would appreciate any comment or input.

Thanks for your time .

Bests,

 

 

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Luis replied on Fri, Sep 26 2014 10:30 AM

Hi Pooyan, I'm starting some creep test again, if you could send me some images of the experiments you did, or the protocol you wrote I would appreciate it, I think they will help me. My email is aragon_l@hotmail.com

regards,

Luis

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